• Incels

    From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Dumas Walker on Sat Sep 17 14:20:16 2022
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Dumas Walker to DAITENGU on Sat Sep 17 2022 09:57 am

    I could see younger people calling themselves that.

    Yeah, it's definitely younger people for the most part. They grow up a bit, realize that being a bi-polar raging douche-canoe isn't the way to start a relationship, and move on.

    At least, most of them do. Some never grow up, and wind up going to prison for violent offenses, where they then become "involuntarily not-celibate"


    These fuckwads insist that women owe them sex, find like-minded chicken-chokers (easy to do on the internet now days), and after spending enough time having their own thoughts echoed back to them in these toxic cesspits they call "communities", they go out start harassing women. Eventually they take it to the level of assault.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to DaiTengu on Sat Sep 17 22:36:00 2022
    Re: Incels
    By: DaiTengu to Dumas Walker on Sat Sep 17 2022 02:20 pm

    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Dumas Walker to DAITENGU on Sat Sep 17 2022 09:57 am

    I could see younger people calling themselves that.

    Yeah, it's definitely younger people for the most part. They grow up a bit,

    At least, most of them do. Some never grow up, and wind up going to prison


    These fuckwads insist that women owe them sex, find like-minded chicken-chok ut start harassing women. Eventually they take it to the level of assault.

    DaiTengu

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    Neither side holds the de facto high ground. There's damaged goods on both sides of the fence. Men are accused of being the assholes and aggressors, however I have also seen quite a few passive men who are relationships with women who act as if they own their husbands. The guys talk smack with their friends, then go home and put on the puppy leash and take the abuse.

    One of my "Facebook" friends, a girl I knew from school that was a few years above me in my sister's class, always post and complains about not finding Mr Right. There's been several times I've created a response, then changed it before hitting send. Every time I see her, it is in a bar or place with a
    beer garden and band playing. I would like to tell her unless she tries a different type of pond, she will continue to catch the same type of fish.
    What I fear is she is a functioning alcoholic, and there's not much in her
    life outside of socializing where alcohol is served.

    I've reached a point in my life where I do not feel empty or need somebody in my life, so I no longer shop. Despite this, I still find women who are more than a bit friendly or some form of chemistry is present. If I'm even trying and find prospects, these hopeless romantics on either side are looking in
    the wrong places.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Arelor on Sun Sep 18 12:59:00 2022
    Re: Incels
    By: Arelor to MRO on Sun Sep 18 2022 05:41 am

    Re: Incels
    By: MRO to Moondog on Sun Sep 18 2022 02:49 am

    she knows what she's doing and that's what she likes. if she's complainin


    people always find what they are looking for.

    I am sure some people are just like that. In other cases, I think it is just of them finding what they look for, but not what they want, because they loo wrong deal.

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    If you get into your 50's and 60's and still hang in bars, doing the same
    stuff you were doing when you were in your 20's and 30's, I'm afraid there is little chance of maturity. People aren't always doomed and some are just
    late bloomers and finally wise up much later than they wished they did.
    Others accept the logic, yet their hearts lead them back down the same path.

    Something I have found amusing are the ladies who were stunningly attractive
    in their younger years trying to maintain that arrogance in their later
    years. Some look like they've barely aged, or age like wine, and have gooten better. I'm not talking about them. I'm referring the girls in school that were popular and were perceived to be out of most guy's league, and dated older men or the captain of the football team. Some haven't held up well,
    but rely on the nostalgia of being placed on a pedestal, yet haven't shed
    that behavior they had in school.

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MINDS3 to Moondog on Mon Sep 19 21:56:00 2022
    Moondog wrote to MRO <=-

    Re: Incels
    By: MRO to Moondog on Sun Sep 18 2022 02:01 pm

    Re: Incels
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Sun Sep 18 2022 12:59 pm


    If you get into your 50's and 60's and still hang in bars, doing the same stuff you were doing when you were in your 20's and 30's, I'm afraid ther is little chance of maturity. People aren't always doomed and some are j late bloomers and finally wise up much later than they wished they did. Others accept the logic, yet their hearts lead them back down the same pa


    it depends on the type of bar. some bars are where you can meet new friends. it's just not people getting drunk.

    there's this bar i used to go to that had awesome food. everyone there was f they had different activites and live music.

    it's important to get out of the house.
    some stuff is too expensive or if you're alone you just cant go to.

    We have bars like that too, but the older folk tend to go to the hole
    in the wall or dive bars because there is less younger competition, or less "kids" in general. It's ironic since those looking for action are choosing a smaller pond in order to appear to be a bigger fish.

    Another issue is how far a person wants to drive with any amount of alcohol in their system. If you have to drive 30 minutes home through several smaller towns or through suburbs that are known for heavy
    police presence, a trip to the tavern 5 minutes away sounds more appealing. Several of the wineries and breweries have their version of
    a public house, or "pub," however their prices are considerable more if you're having more than just a f ew drinks with dinner.

    I don't think there is any issues going to bars, pubs and clubs at that age. If that it is *all* you do, then there is a problem, but being old shouldn't mean you stop socialising, stop meeting new people, stop having fun. Isn't it normal in many places in the world for old people to sit at a bar or cafe? They're enjoying life!

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Boraxman on Mon Sep 19 09:14:00 2022
    Re: Re: Incels
    By: Boraxman to Moondog on Mon Sep 19 2022 09:56 pm

    Moondog wrote to MRO <=-

    Re: Incels
    By: MRO to Moondog on Sun Sep 18 2022 02:01 pm

    Re: Incels
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Sun Sep 18 2022 12:59 pm


    If you get into your 50's and 60's and still hang in bars, doing the s stuff you were doing when you were in your 20's and 30's, I'm afraid t is little chance of maturity. People aren't always doomed and some ar late bloomers and finally wise up much later than they wished they did Others accept the logic, yet their hearts lead them back down the same


    it depends on the type of bar. some bars are where you can meet new frien it's just not people getting drunk.

    there's this bar i used to go to that had awesome food. everyone there wa they had different activites and live music.

    it's important to get out of the house.
    some stuff is too expensive or if you're alone you just cant go to.

    We have bars like that too, but the older folk tend to go to the hole in the wall or dive bars because there is less younger competition, or less "kids" in general. It's ironic since those looking for action are choosing a smaller pond in order to appear to be a bigger fish.

    Another issue is how far a person wants to drive with any amount of alcohol in their system. If you have to drive 30 minutes home through several smaller towns or through suburbs that are known for heavy police presence, a trip to the tavern 5 minutes away sounds more appealing. Several of the wineries and breweries have their version of a public house, or "pub," however their prices are considerable more if you're having more than just a f ew drinks with dinner.

    I don't think there is any issues going to bars, pubs and clubs at that age. If that it is *all* you do, then there is a problem, but being old shouldn't mean you stop socialising, stop meeting new people, stop having fun. Isn't normal in many places in the world for old people to sit at a bar or cafe? They're enjoying life!


    That's fine as you say. I'm referring to people that only spend their spare time in a bar, or at least most of their free time. The maturity thing comes in when there are people who regularly get pissed drunk like they're kids, and
    never learned what the term "mind your pints and quarts" means. Have a good time, but don't become an embarrassing drunk in public.

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MINDS3 to Moondog on Wed Sep 21 20:35:18 2022
    Re: Re: Incels
    By: Moondog to Boraxman on Mon Sep 19 2022 09:14 am

    I don't think there is any issues going to bars, pubs and clubs at that age. If that it is *all* you do, then there is a problem, but being old shouldn't mean you stop socialising, stop meeting new people, stop having fun. Isn't normal in many places in the world for old people to sit at a bar or cafe? They're enjoying life!


    That's fine as you say. I'm referring to people that only spend their spare time in a bar, or at least most of their free time. The maturity thing comes in when there are people who regularly get pissed drunk like they're kids, and
    never learned what the term "mind your pints and quarts" means. Have a good time, but don't become an embarrassing drunk in public.

    Understandable, and I agree. It would get boring doing the same thing everyday for your entire life, never living in any other mode.

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  • From HusTler@VERT/PHARCYDE to esc on Wed Sep 21 07:17:38 2022
    Re: Re: Incels
    By: esc to MRO on Tue Sep 20 2022 10:38 pm

    I stopped drinking alcohol in July of 2021 and realized that alcohol was bringing out sides of my personality that I was not a fan of. And I've never really been able to do the "one drink and go home" thing. I think a lot of people can have a decent relationship with alcohol, I'm not one of them, and I'm better off sober.

    I hear that. I was a Jeckle and Hide when I drank. I'm not one of the ones that can drink and have a healthy relationship neither.

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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Moondog on Wed Sep 21 09:32:00 2022
    Moondog wrote to MRO <=-

    We have bars like that too, but the older folk tend to go to the hole
    in the wall or dive bars because there is less younger competition, or less "kids" in general. It's ironic since those looking for action are choosing a smaller pond in order to appear to be a bigger fish.

    I dunno if I'd say it is ironic. If I were single, I would avoid any
    bar/lounge whose clientele's average age was less than 40. Folks in their
    20s and early 30s look like kids to me, more and moreso as I get older.

    I think that's more "natural" than "ironic".


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to esc on Wed Sep 21 15:12:00 2022
    Re: Re: Incels
    By: esc to MRO on Tue Sep 20 2022 10:38 pm

    i dont reach the bottom of the bottle. i just go out to see weird shit and funny shit and get out of the house. i have maybe one beer and i'm big so that beer does nothing to me.

    I stopped drinking alcohol in July of 2021 and realized that alcohol was bri tionship with alcohol, I'm not one of them, and I'm better off sober.

    Congratulations. Some never achieve that moment of clarity. I used to work with someone who was not who I imagined to be a drinker, and he said he had no
    urges to drink and could have alcohol sitting around the house and never
    have an urge to drink. Once he does take a drink, he'll drink until he
    passes out. We're all wired differently, and must learn our limits. That limit
    may be none at all.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to bex on Wed Sep 21 22:59:00 2022
    Re: Re: Incels
    By: bex to Moondog on Wed Sep 21 2022 09:32 am

    Moondog wrote to MRO <=-

    We have bars like that too, but the older folk tend to go to the hole in the wall or dive bars because there is less younger competition, or less "kids" in general. It's ironic since those looking for action are choosing a smaller pond in order to appear to be a bigger fish.

    I dunno if I'd say it is ironic. If I were single, I would avoid any bar/lounge whose clientele's average age was less than 40. Folks in their 20s and early 30s look like kids to me, more and moreso as I get older.

    I think that's more "natural" than "ironic".


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    In terms of venues, I agree it's natural to pick a place with similar aged people. Some venues are more of a drinking establishment than a meet market.
    That is what I find ironic. I used to have a joke pickup line I would use with a girl I used to go to school with. To view people's reactions, I would approach her and say, "I may not be the best looking man in this bar, but
    right now I'm the only one talking to you." I would follow it up later, by saying, "my beer gets warm before I finish it. Can I keep it cold by placing it next to your heart? She's a good friend but we never got past being
    good friends.

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  • From esc@VERT/MONTEREY to Moondog on Wed Sep 21 23:56:00 2022
    Congratulations. Some never achieve that moment of clarity. I used to work with someone who was not who I imagined to be a drinker, and he
    said he had no urges to drink and could have alcohol sitting around the house and never have an urge to drink. Once he does take a drink, he'll drink until he passes out. We're all wired differently, and must learn our limits. That limit
    may be none at all.

    Yeah, I just tend to find my way into dark places once I get near the firewater lol. Thanks for the kind words btw.

    One thing that's interesting is that I don't miss it, my wife drinks wine in front of me and it's a non-issue. The only thing that's weird now is going out with coworkers or something to a dinner or happy hour. But, I'm going to stick to my guns on this for my own sanity and well being.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to esc on Thu Sep 22 09:42:00 2022
    Re: Re: Incels
    By: esc to Moondog on Wed Sep 21 2022 11:56 pm

    Congratulations. Some never achieve that moment of clarity. I used to work with someone who was not who I imagined to be a drinker, and he said he had no urges to drink and could have alcohol sitting around th house and never have an urge to drink. Once he does take a drink, he'l drink until he passes out. We're all wired differently, and must learn our limits. That limit
    may be none at all.

    Yeah, I just tend to find my way into dark places once I get near the firewa

    One thing that's interesting is that I don't miss it, my wife drinks wine in for my own sanity and well being.


    One thing I noticed when I stopped social drinking was I'm the same asshole, but I remember more details of the evening. At one gathering I went to was with a bunch of schedulers from work, and I had one shot because someone else paid for it. The next monday the chief scheduler was asking when all the new monitors and desktops were coming in for their department. She said I
    offered up three displays for each desk, and promised to order them new workst ations. She also said I wouldn't give the new cute scheduler a break that evening. I don't recall any of that. All I recall is having a shot, some conversation, then going home. But for a moment she had me second guessing myself, as if i blacked out. I heard laughing from the cubes next to us, and that gave it away. I got revenge on her with help from her husband. He was buying a keg-erator, a fridge that allows a tapped keg to be cooled at the hardware store. When they proceeded to the checkout,there were a few
    cashiers and the line of customers were long. Someone in line remarked to her that she must be the greatest wife because she is allowing her husband to get something for his mancave. I remarked back that he was buying it for her.
    She has the cool cave, and makes him sit in the little shed with the lawn mower.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to esc on Thu Sep 22 09:47:00 2022
    Re: Re: Incels
    By: esc to MRO on Wed Sep 21 2022 11:57 pm

    If i had an accident at work i'd have to take a drugtest, and even if i were legal in my state it still will be against the company rules. so can't take that shit.

    Gotcha. California just made it illegal for a company to fire you for recrea

    I wonder how they can tell if a person is not under the effect of THC? The police tests years ago would detect use, but not potency or concentration in the system like the a breathalyzer does with blood alcohol content. When I workd in nuclear power generation, use of any pot-based product that tripped their drug test would result in immediate termination.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to esc on Fri Sep 23 10:12:00 2022
    Re: Re: Incels
    By: esc to MRO on Fri Sep 23 2022 02:29 am

    with alcohol they can test your blood alcohol level. i don't think they can do anything with thc right now.

    I don't think companies can compel you to take a blood alcohol test either :

    For insurance reasons, if there is a work accident, a breathalyzer is warranted to prove to the underwriter that alocohol was not a factor. BAC can be calculated from it. I think the accused can request a blood draw, but chances
    are if there's any alcohol is their system, they can extrapolate rate of absorption to the point of when they were legally impaired even closer.

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  • From Charles Blackburn@VERT/FBOBBS to esc on Fri Sep 23 13:04:29 2022
    Re: Re: Incels
    By: esc to MRO on Fri Sep 23 2022 02:29:00

    with alcohol they can test your blood alcohol level. i don't think
    they can do anything with thc right now.
    I don't think companies can compel you to take a blood alcohol test either :)

    they can, but it depends on your job. I know with my job (driving) if there's either a random drug test or a drug test
    cus i was involved in an accident, they also do a BAC test.

    I can also pop a test if i take CDB gummies etc. so yes they can detect some parts incl THC, but the latter is not really
    that accurate at the moment.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Arelor on Sun Sep 25 11:23:00 2022
    Re: Re: Incels
    By: Arelor to MRO on Sun Sep 25 2022 07:12 am

    Re: Re: Incels
    By: MRO to Moondog on Sat Sep 24 2022 02:24 am

    The nuclear power generation industry has a formula based on an averag person 's height and weight. If you're larger than average, that maay you a little. They might go for a blood draw and factor in size based charts
    for people of different sizes. They could have you blow the breathalz wait an hour, then blow again, and build a scale based on the rate you broke it down. The NRC nad industry take it pretty seriously.


    if they find ANY alcohol they should fire the person.

    It... depends.

    A friend of mine was having a prescription mouth flush every morning before work. ONe day, he was stopped at a traffic control and they made him blow in the alcoholimeter. His readings were "Take him to Police Station" high. WHen they did a blood test, they found 0.0 alcohol. Apparently, the mouth flush h a high alcohol content and messed up the readings \o/

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    In the test procedures I've been involved with, the subject is asked if they had any mouthwash, drinks or food 15-20 minutes prior to the breathalyzer test. if the answer is yes, then they will sit in the ready room for
    another 15-20 minutes, and maybe allowed a cup of water if they feel dehydrated. I can see how a police officer might not have that much time to sit around and wait for surface applied alcohol to evaporate.


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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Moondog on Fri Sep 23 16:10:00 2022
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    would follow it up later, by saying, "my beer gets warm before I finish it. Can I keep it cold by placing it next to your heart? She's a good friend but we never got past being good friends.

    Sounds wonderful, good friends are so important! <3



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