• Human interactions

    From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Arelor on Wed Sep 21 21:57:00 2022
    Arelor said to bex: <=-

    Anyway, your reduction of human romantic relationships to "simple" financial transaction is so close to part of the incel world that difficult to see the difference.

    I suspect you are trying to lump me in with a group I have no
    affiliation with, so I will make it easy for you:

    I am not saying you're an incel, just that the things that you wrote were similar to what a number of incels say. Do what you will with that.

    People sucks and uses other people as assets.

    Women are people. Therefore they suck and use other people as assets.
    Just as men do. Big surprise.

    I feel so bad for whatever you've gone through in your life that has given
    you such a dour outlook on people and society. (((hug)))

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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Dumas Walker on Wed Sep 21 22:15:00 2022
    Dumas Walker said to Bex: <=-

    Anyway, you're reduction of human romantic relationships to a
    "simple"
    financial transaction is so close to part of the incel world that

    I did not read it that way. I have not ever met any women who are impressed by someone who cannot afford to go out anywhere and do things

    You are over-thinking this. What we want - what most anyone wants - is to
    spend time *together*. You're the one who thinks that means going out for dinner or movies or whatever else it is you are lumping into the phrase
    "go out anywhere and do things". A walk in the park is great, and doesn't
    cost anything! Sitting on a bench next to a lake and feeding ducks is free (except for the bread) and fun. And it can be quite entertaining because
    ducks are funny. (: Do you have a dog? Walking a dog together is a great
    way to get some one on one time together.

    And picnics! Browsing in a book store. Window shopping. Community
    concerts. Bird watching.

    AND those are all activities in public, which helps us to relax and not
    worry that we aren't necessarily safe. I cannot over-state how important
    that is.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to BEX on Fri Sep 23 16:52:00 2022
    You are over-thinking this. What we want - what most anyone wants - is to spend time *together*. You're the one who thinks that means going out for dinner or movies or whatever else it is you are lumping into the phrase
    "go out anywhere and do things". A walk in the park is great, and doesn't cost anything! Sitting on a bench next to a lake and feeding ducks is free (except for the bread) and fun. And it can be quite entertaining because ducks are funny. (: Do you have a dog? Walking a dog together is a great
    way to get some one on one time together.

    How do you get to the park, or the lake? Do you own a free teleportation device? I am not overthinking anything. I speak from experience. In the early days especially, doing things that don't cost money won't get you too far. Even women friends I have and am not dating want to go out to eat or
    to a movie, etc... they don't want to just hang out, in public or otherwise.

    The reality might be quite different in a relationship that has been going
    on a long time, especially one that has been made legal and is (supposedly) more difficult to disolve.


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dumas Walker on Sat Sep 24 11:10:00 2022
    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: Dumas Walker to BEX on Fri Sep 23 2022 04:52 pm

    You are over-thinking this. What we want - what most anyone wants - is to spend time *together*. You're the one who thinks that means going out for dinner or movies or whatever else it is you are lumping into the phrase "go out anywhere and do things". A walk in the park is great, and doesn't cost anything! Sitting on a bench next to a lake and feeding ducks is free (except for the bread) and fun. And it can be quite entertaining because ducks are funny. (: Do you have a dog? Walking a dog together is a great way to get some one on one time together.

    How do you get to the park, or the lake? Do you own a free teleportation device? I am not overthinking anything. I speak from experience. In the early days especially, doing things that don't cost money won't get you too far. Even women friends I have and am not dating want to go out to eat or to a movie, etc... they don't want to just hang out, in public or otherwise.

    The reality might be quite different in a relationship that has been going on a long time, especially one that has been made legal and is (supposedly) more difficult to disolve.


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    Everyone is different, and people who like the outdoors and do not need to spend money to have fun exist. You can always ask. The worst thing they can say is no. Nearly every town or cuty I've been to has a park or multiple parks, ponds, walking trails, or nature preserves outside of town. One of my favorite places is a nature preserve with trails through a wetland. They
    have boardwalks and elevated platforms for bird watching, photography, or just
    chilling in the middle of nowhere. Rarely are there crowds in wildlife preserves. You might see an occasional geo-cacher with a gps looking for caches.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MOONDOG on Sun Sep 25 09:23:00 2022
    Everyone is different, and people who like the outdoors and do not need to spend money to have fun exist. You can always ask. The worst thing they can say is no. Nearly every town or cuty I've been to has a park or multiple parks, ponds, walking trails, or nature preserves outside of town. One of my favorite places is a nature preserve with trails through a wetland. They have boardwalks and elevated platforms for bird watching, photography, or just
    chilling in the middle of nowhere. Rarely are there crowds in wildlife preserves. You might see an occasional geo-cacher with a gps looking for caches.

    Mine has enough of those, too, but you have to spend money to get there,
    which was my point.


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dumas Walker on Sun Sep 25 16:11:00 2022
    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: Dumas Walker to MOONDOG on Sun Sep 25 2022 09:23 am

    Everyone is different, and people who like the outdoors and do not need to spend money to have fun exist. You can always ask. The worst thing they say is no. Nearly every town or cuty I've been to has a park or multiple parks, ponds, walking trails, or nature preserves outside of town. One of favorite places is a nature preserve with trails through a wetland. They have boardwalks and elevated platforms for bird watching, photography, or
    chilling in the middle of nowhere. Rarely are there crowds in wildlife preserves. You might see an occasional geo-cacher with a gps looking for caches.

    Mine has enough of those, too, but you have to spend money to get there, which was my point.


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    Everything in life is somewhere else. Does your date live in walking
    distance from you? Do you both have bicycles? Skates? A home cooked dinner sounds cool, but that means going to a store and spending money on food.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MOONDOG on Mon Sep 26 16:43:00 2022
    Everything in life is somewhere else. Does your date live in walking distance from you? Do you both have bicycles? Skates? A home cooked dinner sounds cool, but that means going to a store and spending money on food.

    That was my point. It was someone else's point that things are free that really are not.


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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Dumas Walker on Mon Sep 26 08:18:00 2022
    Dumas Walker wrote to BEX <=-

    How do you get to the park, or the lake? Do you own a free
    teleportation device? I am not overthinking anything. I speak from

    I own *two* free transportation devices, I call them my legs.

    money won't get you too far. Even women friends I have and am not
    dating want to go out to eat or to a movie, etc... they don't want to
    just hang out, in public or otherwise.

    My girlfriends say that your women friends are full of bull. The important thing is meeting somewhere in public and spending time together.

    But it's also up to choosing what makes you most comfortable. That's done really well for you so far, right? ;) j/k


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to BEX on Tue Sep 27 17:04:00 2022
    How do you get to the park, or the lake? Do you own a free teleportation device? I am not overthinking anything. I speak from

    I own *two* free transportation devices, I call them my legs.

    How far are you willing to walk?


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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Dumas Walker on Thu Sep 29 10:20:00 2022
    Dumas Walker wrote to BEX <=-

    How do you get to the park, or the lake? Do you own a free teleportation device? I am not overthinking anything. I speak from

    I own *two* free transportation devices, I call them my legs.

    Hey now, we're talking about your situation here, not mine. But since you asked, in my youth I would've walked a half-hour each way and called that a gentle strolle. Now that I'm old, 15 minutes each way is a hell of a hike.
    :O


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to bex on Fri Sep 30 12:28:00 2022
    Re: Re: Spending time vs mone
    By: bex to Dumas Walker on Thu Sep 29 2022 10:20 am

    Dumas Walker wrote to BEX <=-

    How do you get to the park, or the lake? Do you own a free teleportation device? I am not overthinking anything. I speak from

    I own *two* free transportation devices, I call them my legs.

    Hey now, we're talking about your situation here, not mine. But since you asked, in my youth I would've walked a half-hour each way and called that a gentle strolle. Now that I'm old, 15 minutes each way is a hell of a hike. :O


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    The most I walk these days is around a big box store or a shopping center. Last month I went to the county fair, and which covers 160 acres comprised o f buildings rides, and exhibits. About half of that is parking, but it is still quite a haul walking through building after building, up and down the fairway, and through the food vendors and commercial exhibits. If you go
    there when there's no shuttle from the parking lot, you can walk a half mile from the parking lot to the barns. i was never what I call in shape as a kid but i could walk several laps around the grounds with my friends back in
    my teens.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to BEX on Fri Sep 30 16:28:00 2022
    How do you get to the park, or the lake? Do you own a free teleportation device? I am not overthinking anything. I speak from

    I own *two* free transportation devices, I call them my legs.

    Hey now, we're talking about your situation here, not mine. But since you asked, in my youth I would've walked a half-hour each way and called that a gentle strolle. Now that I'm old, 15 minutes each way is a hell of a hike.
    :O

    We really were not talking about my situation, either. Originally, I was only pointing out that someone else was correct when they said that it takes money to date someone and keep them interested.

    Reason I asked you is because (1) I think you are slightly younger than I
    am (and therefore younger than women my age), and (2) I was pretty certain
    that I live farther away from all these wonderful, walkable free things than the distance you'd be willing to walk.

    There is one park that I might be able to get to from here in 15 minutes walking, if I am able to catch the traffic at a major highway intersection
    just right. That is also the park where the junkies hang out, which does
    not tick you "safety" box. Plus, if I had someone with me, it'd take
    longer than 15 minutes.

    Any of this other wonderful free stuff is not within "free travel" distance
    for anyone who might be walking with me (although some of it would be in walking distance for me... 30 minutes one way is nothing unless it is
    Summer).


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MOONDOG on Fri Sep 30 16:35:00 2022
    Jack Webbs three TV series he produced, Dragnet, Adam-12, and Emergency all so
    urced their story lines from real police departments. IIRC Dragnet and Adam-12's stories were all LAPD, and Emergency sourced theirs from all over th
    e US. Several of the extra firefighters on Emergency were real LA County firefighters, and the dispatcher was voiced by the real county dispatcher.

    IIRC, the dispatcher on Adam-12 was also a real one.


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dumas Walker on Sun Oct 2 10:12:00 2022
    Re: Re: Spending time vs mone
    By: Dumas Walker to BEX on Fri Sep 30 2022 04:28 pm


    How do you get to the park, or the lake? Do you own a free teleportation device? I am not overthinking anything. I speak fr

    I own *two* free transportation devices, I call them my legs.

    Hey now, we're talking about your situation here, not mine. But since you asked, in my youth I would've walked a half-hour each way and called that gentle strolle. Now that I'm old, 15 minutes each way is a hell of a hike. :O

    We really were not talking about my situation, either. Originally, I was on pointing out that someone else was correct when they said that it takes mone to date someone and keep them interested.

    Reason I asked you is because (1) I think you are slightly younger than I
    am (and therefore younger than women my age), and (2) I was pretty certain that I live farther away from all these wonderful, walkable free things than the distance you'd be willing to walk.

    There is one park that I might be able to get to from here in 15 minutes walking, if I am able to catch the traffic at a major highway intersection just right. That is also the park where the junkies hang out, which does not tick you "safety" box. Plus, if I had someone with me, it'd take
    longer than 15 minutes.

    Any of this other wonderful free stuff is not within "free travel" distance for anyone who might be walking with me (although some of it would be in walking distance for me... 30 minutes one way is nothing unless it is Summer).


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    Ok, in most cases there is nothing completely free, because even a stay at home dinner date will require the cost of electricity, cost of water and
    other utilities. Add to that the cost of soap, shampoo and clothing, and the cost of food and drink.

    Cost of travel may just be a given, and required element in most cases to socialize, unless you meet someone who is cool enough to drive everywhere.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dumas Walker on Sun Oct 2 10:34:00 2022
    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: Dumas Walker to MOONDOG on Fri Sep 30 2022 04:35 pm

    Jack Webbs three TV series he produced, Dragnet, Adam-12, and Emergency al urced their story lines from real police departments. IIRC Dragnet and Adam-12's stories were all LAPD, and Emergency sourced theirs from all ove e US. Several of the extra firefighters on Emergency were real LA County firefighters, and the dispatcher was voiced by the real county dispatcher.

    IIRC, the dispatcher on Adam-12 was also a real one.


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    It doesn't surprise me. Jack Webb had donated enough money to the LAPD over the years it paid for a building at the police academy. The actual police aca demy makes an appearance in the opening credits of the 70's Charlies Angels
    TV series.

    It was interesting that the three Jack Webb series were all spinoffs, and
    took place in the same TV universe. There was an episode of Adam-12 where
    they had to spend a day or two doing airport security, and that story felt
    like a possible spinoff. There was also talk of one of the paramedics
    leaving LA and becoming a park ranger. that would've been the springboard
    for another series.

    I have one nitpick about Adam 12. Their radio ID was 1 Adam 12. The number
    1 designates precinct or patrol area, Adam is the police phonetic for a 2 man patrol car, and 12 tells them apart from the other patrol cars. Precinct 1
    was downtown LA, and Precinct 2 was west of downtown, also known as Rampart.

    Adam 12 operated out of the Rampart station on the series (show was filmed in west LA county) so technically their radio callsign should be 2 Adam 12

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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Moondog on Tue Oct 4 10:54:00 2022
    Moondog wrote to bex <=-

    center. Last month I went to the county fair, and which covers 160
    acres comprised o f buildings rides, and exhibits. About half of that

    Y'know, I haven't been to a county fair since... wow, I can't even really remember! Not since my kiddos were all in single-digit ages (they are now
    18, 16 and 14). I know what I want to do now!

    is parking, but it is still quite a haul walking through building after building, up and down the fairway, and through the food vendors and

    I am once again envious of you! Did you have a good time, aside from all
    the walking?


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Moondog on Tue Oct 4 09:06:00 2022
    Moondog wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    and that story felt like a possible spinoff. There was also talk of
    one of the paramedics leaving LA and becoming a park ranger. that would've been the springboard for another series.

    If only a young David Hasselhoff made an appearance as an impressionable
    kid, they could have tied Baywatch the same 'verse.


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to bex on Thu Oct 6 13:32:00 2022
    Re: Re: Spending time vs mone
    By: bex to Moondog on Tue Oct 04 2022 10:54 am

    Moondog wrote to bex <=-

    center. Last month I went to the county fair, and which covers 160 acres comprised o f buildings rides, and exhibits. About half of that

    Y'know, I haven't been to a county fair since... wow, I can't even really remember! Not since my kiddos were all in single-digit ages (they are now 18, 16 and 14). I know what I want to do now!

    is parking, but it is still quite a haul walking through building after building, up and down the fairway, and through the food vendors and

    I am once again envious of you! Did you have a good time, aside from all
    the walking?


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    One of my favorite hobbies is people watching. You get all types, shapes and sizes at big events. What amazes me is city kids that do not
    realize vegetables have to planted and harvested, and animals are the source
    of meat in stores.

    Goths at a fair interest me. It is 100 degrees F outside, and these kids are layered in black clothing. They all look like they're having fun underneath their depressing surface.

    I used to raise and show animals through 4-f, and had several friends I knew from the fair and summer who went to other schools. I lived at the edge of our
    school district, and my summer friends lived closer to me than my school friends.

    I'd lose touch with some friends due to shorter days in the fall and winter. I'd see them when my school played their school in basketball. On friday nigh t games our parents would take us out after the game, and we'd hang out playin g video games at the nearest tavern.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Oct 6 22:19:00 2022
    Re: Re: Spending time vs mone
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Moondog on Tue Oct 04 2022 09:06 am

    Subject: Re: Spending time vs money
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    Moondog wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    and that story felt like a possible spinoff. There was also talk of one of the paramedics leaving LA and becoming a park ranger. that would've been the springboard for another series.

    If only a young David Hasselhoff made an appearance as an impressionable kid, they could have tied Baywatch the same 'verse.


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  • From Hylian@VERT to All on Sat Oct 8 11:20:07 2022
    I was reading your posts, and it reminded me of my Grandpa Mike.

    He told me "You can make more money, you can't make more time."

    That's my opinion too.

    Time is finite.
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Hylian on Sat Oct 8 16:05:00 2022
    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: Hylian to All on Sat Oct 08 2022 11:20 am

    I was reading your posts, and it reminded me of my Grandpa Mike.

    He told me "You can make more money, you can't make more time."

    That's my opinion too.

    Time is finite.
    -Hylian


    Money can't buy happiness, but it sure feels better crying in a heated
    leather car seat.

    At best it's about finding a balance or quality of life versus a long life
    with no resources to do more than just survive.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to HYLIAN on Sun Oct 9 11:00:00 2022
    I was reading your posts, and it reminded me of my Grandpa Mike.

    He told me "You can make more money, you can't make more time."

    +1

    As I have gotten older, I am very disappointed in my ability to continue to waste time.


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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Moondog on Thu Oct 20 10:51:00 2022
    Moondog wrote to bex <=-

    One of my favorite hobbies is people watching. You get all types,
    shapes and sizes at big events. What amazes me is city kids that do
    not realize vegetables have to planted and harvested, and animals are
    the source of meat in stores.

    Hmm... they definitely go to different schools than my kiddos did. Their schools had field trips to farms and ranches around the area, lessons in science about foods we eat and where they come from and more.

    Goths at a fair interest me. It is 100 degrees F outside, and these
    kids are layered in black clothing. They all look like they're having
    fun underneath their depressing surface.

    My youngest daughter is very much goth, she dies her hair black, she has naturally pale skin that she highlights. (Side note: I am Hispanic but my youngest got none of the melatonin genes. My son is naturally tan. You can
    tell that they are siblings in their facial shape and features, but they
    look like night and day versions of each other.)

    She has periods where she's depressed, but for the most part she just likes
    the goth style.


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to bex on Tue Oct 25 17:31:00 2022
    Re: Re: Spending time vs mone
    By: bex to Moondog on Thu Oct 20 2022 10:51 am

    Moondog wrote to bex <=-

    One of my favorite hobbies is people watching. You get all types, shapes and sizes at big events. What amazes me is city kids that do not realize vegetables have to planted and harvested, and animals are the source of meat in stores.

    Hmm... they definitely go to different schools than my kiddos did. Their schools had field trips to farms and ranches around the area, lessons in science about foods we eat and where they come from and more.

    Goths at a fair interest me. It is 100 degrees F outside, and these kids are layered in black clothing. They all look like they're having fun underneath their depressing surface.

    My youngest daughter is very much goth, she dies her hair black, she has naturally pale skin that she highlights. (Side note: I am Hispanic but my youngest got none of the melatonin genes. My son is naturally tan. You can tell that they are siblings in their facial shape and features, but they look like night and day versions of each other.)

    She has periods where she's depressed, but for the most part she just likes the goth style.


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    My friend's son went through a psuedo goth phase. He only did it to hang out with some girl,then it ended as soon as they lost interest in each other.
    The strange part is their son was a cross country runner and general jock
    type, and did well academically. It was far from being a clique or social status thing. His friends that knew him understand he is cosmetic about
    things like that.

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