• How far I've come...

    From Cougar428@VERT to DUMAS WALKER on Thu Feb 2 09:57:00 2023
    Quoting Dumas Walker to Mro <=-

    There is nothing wrong with manufacturing and other non-office work. Those are the folks who are usually the ones that actually make things happen.

    Without the people who actually create the product, no one else's
    job would really matter would it? Once the product is manufactured,
    then it moves on to the rest of the system to process (box, ship and
    sell).

    Cougar


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Thu Feb 2 17:08:00 2023
    I don't think I've known anyone who has looked down on manufacturing. We
    eed
    anufacturing in order to make/build things.

    I think most people with sense don't think that way. I worked in an office
    at a manufacturing plant for a few years, and there were a few here and
    there that did look down on the floor guys as a whole. There were others
    that were married to them. :)

    OTOH, the way some politicians (and some of their die-hard followers) act,
    I am pretty sure there are still people who look down on manufacturing, at least certain types of it.


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  • From Margaerynne@VERT/PALANT to Cougar428 on Thu Feb 2 20:31:09 2023
    Re: How far I've come...
    By: Cougar428 to DUMAS WALKER on Thu Feb 02 2023 09:57 am

    Without the people who actually create the product, no one else's
    job would really matter would it?

    Manufacturing makes the product, logistics makes it worth something


    At this point, everyone is reliant on everyone else. I'd be useless without
    manufacturing/research, but they'd be wasting absurd amounts of time and
    energy without proper spreadsheets and automation

    I do my job, they do theirs, and we all benefit.

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  • From Cougar428@VERT to MARGAERYNNE on Sat Feb 4 05:44:00 2023
    Quoting Margaerynne to Cougar428 <=-

    Without the people who actually create the product, no one else's
    job would really matter would it?

    Manufacturing makes the product, logistics makes it worth something
    At this point, everyone is reliant on everyone else. I'd be useless without manufacturing/research, but they'd be wasting absurd amounts
    of time and energy without proper spreadsheets and automation

    I do my job, they do theirs, and we all benefit.

    You are correct in the scheme of things of course, but I stand by
    what I said. You can't put the chicken before the egg. Without the
    product being made in the first place, the logistics and the rest of
    the chain would not be needed.

    I don't mean that in the manufacturing environment that logistics
    and everything else is not needed, just that the actual people
    creating the product are just as important as the rest. If I
    understand you correctly - that was also your point.

    Thanks!

    Cougar



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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Cougar428 on Sun Feb 5 11:17:00 2023
    Re: How far I've come...
    By: Cougar428 to MARGAERYNNE on Sat Feb 04 2023 05:44 am

    Quoting Margaerynne to Cougar428 <=-

    Without the people who actually create the product, no one else's
    job would really matter would it?

    Manufacturing makes the product, logistics makes it worth something
    At this point, everyone is reliant on everyone else. I'd be useless without manufacturing/research, but they'd be wasting absurd amounts
    of time and energy without proper spreadsheets and automation

    I do my job, they do theirs, and we all benefit.

    You are correct in the scheme of things of course, but I stand by
    what I said. You can't put the chicken before the egg. Without the
    product being made in the first place, the logistics and the rest of
    the chain would not be needed.

    I don't mean that in the manufacturing environment that logistics
    and everything else is not needed, just that the actual people
    creating the product are just as important as the rest. If I
    understand you correctly - that was also your point.

    Thanks!

    Cougar



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    A product needs demand from a customer base. A product is worth what the customer is willing to pay for it. Each time some dummy shoots a bunch of people, ammo or magazine prices go up. They eventually go up to ridiculous prices where most people won't buy them, however the owners will persist to gouge in the hopes someone will deviate from the norm and have to have an
    item regardless of cost.

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  • From Cougar428@VERT to MOONDOG on Tue Feb 7 23:18:00 2023
    Quoting Moondog to Cougar428 <=-

    A product needs demand from a customer base. A product is worth what
    the customer is willing to pay for it. Each time some dummy shoots a bunch of people, ammo or magazine prices go up. They eventually go up
    to ridiculous prices where most people won't buy them, however the
    owners will persist to gouge in the hopes someone will deviate from the norm and have to have an item regardless of cost.

    Kind of like when .22lr ammo was almost unobtainable - UNLESS you
    wanted to pay 9mm prices.

    After 3 years the price came back down. I'm just a plinker, but
    ammo was a big problem for me when that was happening. I just
    target shoot...

    I went dry there as I would not pay what they were asking. Just my
    experience and opinion.

    I get what you are saying though...

    Cougar

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Cougar428 on Wed Feb 8 14:57:00 2023
    Re: How far I've come...
    By: Cougar428 to MOONDOG on Tue Feb 07 2023 11:18 pm

    Quoting Moondog to Cougar428 <=-

    A product needs demand from a customer base. A product is worth what the customer is willing to pay for it. Each time some dummy shoots a bunch of people, ammo or magazine prices go up. They eventually go up to ridiculous prices where most people won't buy them, however the owners will persist to gouge in the hopes someone will deviate from the norm and have to have an item regardless of cost.

    Kind of like when .22lr ammo was almost unobtainable - UNLESS you
    wanted to pay 9mm prices.

    After 3 years the price came back down. I'm just a plinker, but
    ammo was a big problem for me when that was happening. I just
    target shoot...

    I went dry there as I would not pay what they were asking. Just my experience and opinion.

    I get what you are saying though...

    Cougar

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    The best way to keep shooting is so stack it high and deep when the price is cheap. At one time I used to grab a semi brick of 550 rounds of .22 at
    Walmart because their bulk price beat out any of the local gun shops. If I'm buying a pair of socks or some shirts, I'd grab a box of .22. If I'm buying groceries, a trick to the sporting goods counter was justifialble. Over some time I built up a stash to shhot through and stopped picking ammo up. Prices had jumped considerably and I wished I would've kept buying cheaper ammo.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to COUGAR428 on Wed Feb 8 16:29:00 2023
    After 3 years the price came back down. I'm just a plinker, but
    ammo was a big problem for me when that was happening. I just
    target shoot...

    +1.

    I went dry there as I would not pay what they were asking. Just my experience and opinion.

    Also +1. I did find some on special and bought the limit, which was not
    much.


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