• joe biden

    From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MOONDOG on Wed Sep 7 16:18:00 2022
    i think he will step down for medical reasons before his term is up.
    not only is he physically and mentally unable to do his job, he's a huge em

    They don't want Kamala in charge either

    There were other "women of color" who are Democrats who would have been
    more qualified, and more competent. I have seen no evidence to support why he picked her, unless he knew no one would want her to follow him.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to BEX on Wed Sep 7 16:34:00 2022
    Joe's gotta be Joe. On the plus side, his rhetoric is 1000% calmer than
    his predecessor.

    Can you remind me when Trump stood in front of a threatening red and black background to deliver an official speech to the nation about how roughly one half of the country is a threat to democracy?

    I am thinking not.


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dumas Walker on Thu Sep 8 11:01:00 2022
    Re: joe biden
    By: Dumas Walker to MOONDOG on Wed Sep 07 2022 04:18 pm

    i think he will step down for medical reasons before his term is up. not only is he physically and mentally unable to do his job, he's a hug

    They don't want Kamala in charge either

    There were other "women of color" who are Democrats who would have been
    more qualified, and more competent. I have seen no evidence to support why picked her, unless he knew no one would want her to follow him.


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    I'm wondering who other than Trump the Republicans have to offer as well?
    The Never Trumpers have proven they'll vote for anyone other than Trump, and
    it may be in the Republican's best interest to groom a new candidate that is more appealing to vote for by both sides who do not want Biden back or Kamala in charge.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MOONDOG on Fri Sep 9 17:51:00 2022
    They don't want Kamala in charge either

    There were other "women of color" who are Democrats who would have been more qualified, and more competent. I have seen no evidence to support why
    picked her, unless he knew no one would want her to follow him.

    I'm wondering who other than Trump the Republicans have to offer as well?
    The Never Trumpers have proven they'll vote for anyone other than Trump, and it may be in the Republican's best interest to groom a new candidate that is more appealing to vote for by both sides who do not want Biden back or Kamala in charge.

    I would prefer Desantis. Haley, to me, would also be a good choice,
    although I know that some MAGA Trumpers don't like her any more.

    I personally voted for someone other than Trump in the 2016 primary. Once the person he was running against became HRC, I felt like I did not have much of a choice but to vote for him.

    To me, Trump is no longer a good choice. If it comes down to Trump vs. a declining Joe Biden or, worse, Kamala Harris, I am not sure what I will do.
    Maybe vote third party so I can have a clean conscience and can also claim whatever happens next is not my fault.


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dumas Walker on Fri Sep 9 19:00:40 2022
    Re: joe biden
    By: Dumas Walker to MOONDOG on Fri Sep 09 2022 05:51 pm

    To me, Trump is no longer a good choice. If it comes down to Trump vs. a declining Joe Biden or, worse, Kamala Harris, I am not sure what I will do.
    Maybe vote third party so I can have a clean conscience and can also claim whatever happens next is not my fault.

    With the last election, it came down to only Trump and Biden. There were no 3rd-party candidates by election time (if there were, they had all dropped out). Hopefully we'll have more choices with the 2024 election.

    Nightfox

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Sat Sep 10 09:55:00 2022
    To me, Trump is no longer a good choice. If it comes down to Trump vs. a declining Joe Biden or, worse, Kamala Harris, I am not sure what I will do.
    Maybe vote third party so I can have a clean conscience and can also clai
    whatever happens next is not my fault.

    With the last election, it came down to only Trump and Biden. There were no 3
    -party candidates by election time (if there were, they had all dropped out). opefully we'll have more choices with the 2024 election.

    Indeed. The last two elections have not yielded a good crop of general election candidates from any parties, including the top two.


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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Nightfox on Sat Sep 10 13:47:42 2022
    On 9/9/22 19:00, Nightfox wrote:

    With the last election, it came down to only Trump and Biden. There
    were no 3rd-party candidates by election time (if there were, they
    had all dropped out). Hopefully we'll have more choices with the 2024 election.

    Doubt it... the two major parties have systematically made it more
    difficult in every state over the past few decades to get a third party candidate on the ballot, some against the last presidential turnout...
    with that record turnout, it becomes harder still.

    Best chances are getting involved in local politics at precinct level
    and try to shape better candidates from within the parties. There are movements in both D and R to do this, but money is still money and it
    doesn't always work. Of course this also leads to more extreme
    positions from candidates in both camps and less negotiation when they
    get into office. It's a mixed bag, but I think getting the sellouts out
    first is probably the prudent choice, as long as neither side gets a
    super majority again.
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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Dumas Walker on Tue Sep 13 16:32:00 2022
    Dumas Walker wrote to BEX <=-

    Joe's gotta be Joe. On the plus side, his rhetoric is 1000% calmer than
    his predecessor.

    black background to deliver an official speech to the nation about how roughly one half of the country is a threat to democracy?

    He did not say half of the country is a threat, he said that the MAGA wing
    of the Republican Party could be a danger. The MAGA wing is a small but
    vocal part of the Republican party, one that is shunned by the mainstream
    GOP.

    I've mentioned at other places - and maybe here - that I don't agree with Biden's speech, and that it is more divisive than it needed to be. But at
    least discuss what he actually said.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to BEX on Wed Sep 14 18:36:00 2022
    black background to deliver an official speech to the nation about how roughly one half of the country is a threat to democracy?

    He did not say half of the country is a threat, he said that the MAGA wing
    of the Republican Party could be a danger. The MAGA wing is a small but
    vocal part of the Republican party, one that is shunned by the mainstream GOP.

    I've mentioned at other places - and maybe here - that I don't agree with Biden's speech, and that it is more divisive than it needed to be. But at least discuss what he actually said.

    As I mentioned in another place, to another poster... perception is
    reality. If he meant what he said in that manner, it was not taken that
    way by many, which made it sound even more divisive than you think it did.

    At least you do admit that it was divisive. The person I responded to did
    not think it was at all, but I am pretty sure that on the topic of
    "MAGA/Trump supporters" he is in the choir that Biden was preaching to.


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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to bex on Wed Sep 21 21:00:01 2022
    On 9/13/22 13:32, bex wrote:
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    background to deliver an official speech to the nation about how
    roughly one half of the country is a threat to democracy?

    He did not say half of the country is a threat, he said that the
    MAGA wing of the Republican Party could be a danger. The MAGA wing
    is a small but vocal part of the Republican party, one that is
    shunned by the mainstream GOP.

    I've mentioned at other places - and maybe here - that I don't
    agree with Biden's speech, and that it is more divisive than it
    needed to be. But at least discuss what he actually said.

    He absolutely *DID* make clarifying statements that include pretty much
    all conservatives. Which is closer to 1/3 of the voters than 1/2... all
    the same, it was definitely inflammatory and had the tone of someone who wanted to spark more division and conflict, not less.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to TRACKER1 on Thu Sep 22 16:34:00 2022
    I've mentioned at other places - and maybe here - that I don't
    agree with Biden's speech, and that it is more divisive than it
    needed to be. But at least discuss what he actually said.

    He absolutely *DID* make clarifying statements that include pretty much
    all conservatives. Which is closer to 1/3 of the voters than 1/2... all
    the same, it was definitely inflammatory and had the tone of someone who wanted to spark more division and conflict, not less.

    + 1


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