• Re: burgers

    From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to JIM WELLER on Tue Jun 30 08:05:00 2015
    JIM WELLER wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    The nearest Fatburger to me is the single Michigan location at
    Wayne State University in Detroit. 500 miles is a long way to
    go for a burger. I do have Smashburger, Five Guys and Red
    Robin - all of which are very good .... Smashburger at the top
    followed by Red Robin.

    I would have thought there would be one closer to you but after I
    went to their website I learned they are not (yet) that wide spread.

    There is one in Grand Prairie and Fort McMurray and several in
    Edmonton which, although more than 500 miles from home, are all
    places that I visit regularly.

    Mostly in the western part of the continent it seems. If I am within hailing distance of one at meal time - I'll give them a whistle.

    I have often driven 50 miles out of the way and past other places
    for really good burgers, pizza, steaks, Asian food and bars.

    I go regularly 30 miles to Taylorville, IL for really good chilli-mac. The recipe is that of Don Marsango who was Illinois State Chilli Champ so many times in a row there was talk of retiring the title. Bv)= I used to drive the 40 or so miles to Decatur, IL to Carlos O'Kelly's for a bowl of Chile Verde. But, they dropped that from their menu - so, I dropped them. Carlos has from hundreds of locations to less than 25 - clustered mostly in eastern Kansas and western Iowa ..... and one outlier in Stafford, VA.

    Smashburger and Five Guys both get rave reviews from net people.
    For one of the biggest polls of fast food enthusiasts ever taken
    check out... http://tinyurl.com/burger-brackets

    That/those pairings are pretty funky. And some of the entrants ...... pheeeeewwwwww. McDucks? Jack In The Box? You've got to be kidding me, right? JIB adulterates their burgers with soya grit. And Carl's Jr and Hardee's are the same burger - really. Of the burgers which I have experienced -- I disagree with many of their "winners". Wendy's over Culver's? Are they serious? And Steak & Shake over Smashburger? Both are good example of their sort, - but very different schools of hamburger artistry. S&S is really good. But, my $$$ goes to Smash well before Steak & Shake.

    Five Guys is OK ..... but not OK enough that I'll visit my local maul to get their grub. Especially not when there is a Red Robin in the same area - where I can park right near the door. And which, for my $$$ has better burgers and table service. Not to mention decent+ fish & chips.

    Sadly both Smashburger and Fatburger got knocked out early by being
    paired up with strong competitors, so the results are not perfect.

    All that being said --- it seems to have been a poll. In a blind tasting the first cut would get rid of Jack in theBox, McD's, Carl's Jr./Hardees, Burger Whop, Wendy's, White Castle, and maybe Sonic. It's been so long since I had a Krystal burger I can't say -- but I seem to recall that they fell somewhere between White Castle and Sonic. Which would leave the serious burgers: Whataburger, Smashburger, Fatburger, In-N-Out, Culver's and maybe Steak & Shake.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Chicken Picado (Like Carlos O’Kelly’s)
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Dairy, Herbs, Cheese
    Yield: 4 servings

    32 oz Chicken; boned
    1 lg Tomato; diced very small;
    - drained, juice reserved
    6 Green onions; sliced very
    - very thin, white and green
    - separated
    1 sm Bell pepper; fine dice
    16 oz Shredded Monterey jack
    8 oz Dairy sour cream
    1/2 c Butter
    1/4 c Butter
    1/2 ts Salt
    1/4 ts Pepper
    1 c Milk
    1/4 ts (ea) salt & pepper
    1 c Milk
    1/2 tb Fresh garlic; minced
    2 ts Cornstarch
    +=MIXED WITH=+
    2 ts Water
    12 sm (6") tortillas; 3 per person

    Preheat oven to 350oF/175oC

    PREPARE SAUCE: Combine milk, 1 stick of butter, salt,
    pepper, minced garlic & sour cream in skillet over medium
    to medium low heat.

    Stir and heat till sauce starts to boil. Transfer sauce to
    blender and puree sauce till smooth. Transfer back to
    skillet and continue to heat till boiling.

    Add cornstarch mixture and stir till thickened. Add tomato
    juice from diced tomatoes and stir. Transfer back to
    blender to Puree. Cover and set aside.

    PREPARE CHICKEN: Slice chicken into pieces no bigger than
    one inch.

    Melt 4 TB of butter in skillet over medium heat, Sauté
    green onions and chicken. Add water and butter to ensure
    chicken does not crisp or get dry.

    For best results lower temperature, cover and cook slowly.
    Cook till chicken is completely done.

    BAKE THE PICADO: On oven safe plates, arrange chicken
    without allowing pieces to touch each other. (this may
    take several plates).

    Cover chicken with Picado sauce (3/4 covered)

    Cover entire mixture with heavy layer of Monterey Jack
    cheese and sprinkle diced tomatoes and scallions (green
    part of green onions sliced thin) over top of cheese.

    Bake in oven at 350oF/175oC until all cheese is melted
    completely.

    Remove from oven just before it begins to turn a light
    golden color. Cheese still needs to be white.

    Prepare tortillas during baking (warm in microwave by
    placing wax paper between each tortilla stacked on a
    microwave safe plate for 1 to 3 minutes on high - covered)

    Serve fresh and hot from oven.

    Each tortilla should contain 2 to 4 tsp of Picado

    Add any desired toppings (guacamole, tomatoes, lettuce,
    salsa, etc.)

    Roll tortillas and eat.

    Best if served with refried beans (with sausage) and
    Spanish Rice.

    Thank you to Chad Agler from Topeka, Kansas

    Recipe from: http://www.food.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Dr. Evil@44:100/0 to Dave Drum on Thu Jul 2 21:49:00 2015
    On 06/30/15, Dave Drum said the following...
    Yield: 4 servings
    32 oz Chicken; boned
    - drained, juice reserved
    6 Green onions; sliced very

    what the hell is this?

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    |11Dr Evil

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  • From Al@44:250/0 to Dr. Evil on Fri Jul 3 15:03:00 2015
    On 07/02/15, Dr. Evil said the following...

    On 06/30/15, Dave Drum said the following...
    Yield: 4 servings
    32 oz Chicken; boned
    - drained, juice reserved
    6 Green onions; sliced very

    what the hell is this?

    Fidosplat? I tried some bugspray but so far it hasn't worked.. :)

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (44:250/0)
  • From Skuz@44:100/2 to Al on Fri Jul 3 22:47:00 2015
    03 Jul 15 15:03, you wrote to Dr. Evil:

    On 07/02/15, Dr. Evil said the following...

    On 06/30/15, Dave Drum said the following...
    Yield: 4 servings
    32 oz Chicken; boned
    - drained, juice reserved
    6 Green onions; sliced very

    what the hell is this?

    Fidosplat? I tried some bugspray but so far it hasn't worked.. :)

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

    From looking over the orignal fido DE>> DD>> fidosplat @PATH .....
    it was crossed ported from fido 2:1200/8001 who is also Dorenet 49/0 in germany Vitus Zeel aka fu,. BlackIce bbs. This has been going on for awhile now *shrug*

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  • From Al@44:250/0 to Skuz on Sat Jul 4 14:01:00 2015
    Hello Skuz,

    On 06/30/15, Dave Drum said the following...
    Yield: 4 servings
    32 oz Chicken; boned
    - drained, juice reserved
    6 Green onions; sliced very

    what the hell is this?

    Fidosplat? I tried some bugspray but so far it hasn't worked.. :)

    From looking over the orignal fido DE>> DD>> fidosplat @PATH .....
    it was crossed ported from fido 2:1200/8001 who is also Dorenet 49/0 in germany Vitus Zeel aka fu,. BlackIce bbs. This has been going on for awhile now *shrug*

    That's my best guess too, but that is just a guess. I'm sure there is a solution but I'm not sure of the problem.

    I have those areas here too so sometimes I wonder but I have looked over the logs etc and I'm almost certain they didn't originate here.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Skuz@44:100/2 to Al on Sat Jul 4 18:30:00 2015
    04 Jul 15 14:01, you wrote to me:

    @REPLY: 44:100/2 55974ab6
    @MSGID: 44:250/0 55984c37
    @CHRS: CP437 2
    @TZUTC: -0700
    @TID: hpt/lnx 1.9.0-cur 30-06-15

    On 06/30/15, Dave Drum said the following...
    Yield: 4 servings
    32 oz Chicken; boned
    - drained, juice reserved
    6 Green onions; sliced very

    what the hell is this?

    Fidosplat? I tried some bugspray but so far it hasn't worked..
    :)

    From looking over the orignal fido DE>> DD>> fidosplat @PATH
    ..... it was crossed ported from fido 2:240/8001 who is also
    Dorenet 049/0 in germany Vitus Zeel aka fu,. BlackIce bbs. This
    has been going on for awhile now *shrug*

    That's my best guess too, but that is just a guess. I'm sure there is
    a solution but I'm not sure of the problem.

    I have those areas here too so sometimes I wonder but I have looked
    over the logs etc and I'm almost certain they didn't originate here.

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20130910
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (44:250/0)
    SEEN-BY: 100/0 250/0
    @PATH: 250/0
    SEEN-BY: 100/0 2
    @PATH: 100/0

    From looking at the @PATH see that your 44:250/0 node is simple and not odd. Whereas- Vitus Zell DoRE node has a 049/ in the nodelist. It is the (Zero) in 44:049/ that is odd-ball causing the strange mystic stripping of the Zero in the node. The cross post was showing the @PATH of 49/0 NOT 44:049/0. Logic thinking, tell me that the simplest why to test this is a Mystic BUG. Is to just replace the Vitus Zeel (fu) in the DoREnet nodelist with a simple new node
    number that is not so odd, like 44:049/0 is. This might not explain the cross port from fido into DoREnet but it would show a change in the Mystic 0 digit stripping problem. Is this a Zone,Net,node issue? time will tell. What i do know is that something to not right (:

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  • From Dr. Evil@44:100/0 to Al on Sat Jul 4 16:16:00 2015
    On 07/03/15, Al said the following...
    Fidosplat? I tried some bugspray but so far it hasn't worked.. :)

    ewww sounds like something you get after eating at sizzler lol

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  • From Dr. Evil@44:100/0 to Skuz on Sat Jul 4 16:19:00 2015
    On 07/04/15, Skuz said the following...
    From looking at the @PATH see that your 44:250/0 node is simple and not odd. Whereas- Vitus Zell DoRE node has a 049/ in the nodelist. It is the (Zero) in 44:049/ that is odd-ball causing the strange mystic stripping
    of the Zero in the node. The cross post was showing the @PATH of 49/0
    NOT 44:049/0. Logic thinking, tell me that the simplest why to test this

    would it be better if dm renames his node number to 490 unless that's an area code in USA?

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  • From Leslie Given@44:100/2 to Dr. Evil on Sat Jul 4 22:11:00 2015
    04 Jul 15 16:19, you wrote to Skuz:

    On 07/04/15, Skuz said the following...
    From looking at the @PATH see that your 44:250/0 node is simple
    and not odd. Whereas- Vitus Zell DoRE node has a 049/ in the
    nodelist. It is the (Zero) in 44:049/ that is odd-ball causing
    the strange mystic stripping of the Zero in the node. The cross
    post was showing the @PATH of 49/0 NOT 44:049/0. Logic thinking,
    tell me that the simplest why to test this

    would it be better if dm renames his node number to 490 unless that's
    an area code in USA?

    Area codes worked fine, back in the old analog dailup days, I was just suggesting affecting one person in in Germany (44:049/0). Since DM likes using 3-digits 44:100/ for the USA, Europe could be 44:200/ The point that I was making is that Mystic is stripping out the 44:NET number 0 before the 49/0. Also, nobody else seems to be cross porting form fidonet except 44:049/0.

    Vitus Zeel is also in Survnet as 9:92/1 and I'm 9:91/1 he is not cross posting Fidonet into Survnet. Either the software is at fault or the sysop is at fault. One thing for sure, I would avoid changing the HOST node number, because all other nodes in the network would also need to change their setup info.

    I would avoid using any 3-digit NET numbers :0xx Since Mystic is striping the Zero from the damn net number. Anyway, just my two cents. Something is wrong, finding the answer to fix it ..is sometimes very heard.

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  • From Al@44:250/0 to Dr. Evil on Tue Jul 7 10:20:00 2015
    Hello Dr. Evil,

    Fidosplat? I tried some bugspray but so far it hasn't worked.. :)

    ewww sounds like something you get after eating at sizzler lol

    I have never been to sizzler, never even seen one. Looking on google I see the nearest location to me is in Manatoba. I probably won't be going, probably a good thing by the sound of it.. ;)

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

    ... Plagiarism prohibited, derive carefully.
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  • From Dr. Evil@44:100/0 to Al on Sat Jul 11 00:30:00 2015
    On 07/07/15, Al said the following...
    Hello Dr. Evil,
    Fidosplat? I tried some bugspray but so far it hasn't worked.. :)
    ewww sounds like something you get after eating at sizzler lol
    I have never been to sizzler, never even seen one. Looking on google I
    see the nearest location to me is in Manatoba. I probably won't be
    going, probably a good thing by the sound of it.. ;)

    yeah for the price there are better places to go.

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    |11Dr Evil

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