• NetRunner source

    From Papa@VERT/UNDRMINE to All on Mon Aug 17 19:56:54 2020
    All links I have found for NetRunner point to the 2.0 Beta 18 executable on the Mystic BBS Web site, but is the source available anywhere?

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  • From Underminer@VERT/UNDRMINE to Papa on Mon Aug 17 21:54:50 2020
    Re: NetRunner source
    By: Papa to All on Mon Aug 17 2020 07:56 pm

    All links I have found for NetRunner point to the 2.0 Beta 18 executable on the Mystic BBS Web site, but is the source available anywhere?

    Due to some recent bad experiences with code theft, James has stopped making the source for Mystic/NetRunner available, but the binaries are simple and work.
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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Papa on Tue Aug 18 07:46:00 2020
    Papa wrote to All <=-

    All links I have found for NetRunner point to the 2.0 Beta 18
    executable on the Mystic BBS Web site, but is the source
    available anywhere?

    It's not open-source, so... no.

    There is a Beta-19 available here, which seems to work fine:

    http://www.mysticbbs.com/downloads/prealpha/



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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Underminer on Tue Aug 18 07:47:00 2020
    Underminer wrote to Papa <=-

    Re: NetRunner source
    By: Papa to All on Mon Aug 17 2020 07:56 pm

    All links I have found for NetRunner point to the 2.0 Beta 18 executable on the Mystic BBS Web site, but is the source available anywhere?

    Due to some recent bad experiences with code theft, James has
    stopped making the source for Mystic/NetRunner available, but the
    binaries are simple and work. ---

    Not sure how "recent" that may have been, but both have been
    closed-source for as long as I can remember...


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  • From paulie420@VERT/BEERS20 to Papa on Tue Aug 18 10:19:00 2020
    All links I have found for NetRunner point to the 2.0 Beta 18 executable on the Mystic BBS Web site, but is the source available anywhere?

    No.
    Mystic & Netrunner are not open source.



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  • From Underminer@VERT/UNDRMINE to Gamgee on Tue Aug 18 16:01:27 2020
    Re: Re: NetRunner source
    By: Gamgee to Underminer on Tue Aug 18 2020 07:47 am

    Not sure how "recent" that may have been, but both have been closed-source for as long as I can remember...

    I believe it went closed source when 1.11 was released in 2015. I know that's a a few years ago now, but in the timespan of the BBS world and age of most software it's positively yesterday.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Underminer on Tue Aug 18 17:06:04 2020
    Re: NetRunner source
    By: Underminer to Papa on Mon Aug 17 2020 09:54 pm

    Re: NetRunner source
    By: Papa to All on Mon Aug 17 2020 07:56 pm

    All links I have found for NetRunner point to the 2.0 Beta 18
    executable on the Mystic BBS Web site, but is the source available
    anywhere?

    Due to some recent bad experiences with code theft, James has stopped making the source for Mystic/NetRunner available, but the binaries are

    is that the story now :D
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to UNDERMINER on Tue Aug 18 14:47:00 2020
    Due to some recent bad experiences with code theft, James has stopped making th
    source for Mystic/NetRunner available, but the binaries are simple and work.

    So it was open source but not really?


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  • From Underminer@VERT/UNDRMINE to Dumas Walker on Tue Aug 18 17:32:31 2020
    Re: NetRunner source
    By: Dumas Walker to UNDERMINER on Tue Aug 18 2020 02:47 pm

    So it was open source but not really?

    *shrugs* I don't know what the licence was, but most licences allow changing licence with the agreement of the majority of devs on the project - That's reasonably easy to achieve with one person if that was the case.
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  • From Underminer@VERT/UNDRMINE to MRO on Tue Aug 18 17:33:55 2020
    Re: NetRunner source
    By: MRO to Underminer on Tue Aug 18 2020 05:06 pm

    is that the story now :D

    That's the published story. I don't know the truth of what was in his head and wasn't even a user so all I have to go on is the stated reasons. *shrugs*
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Underminer on Tue Aug 18 22:56:45 2020
    Re: NetRunner source
    By: Underminer to MRO on Tue Aug 18 2020 05:33 pm

    Re: NetRunner source
    By: MRO to Underminer on Tue Aug 18 2020 05:06 pm

    is that the story now :D

    That's the published story. I don't know the truth of what was in his head and wasn't even a user so all I have to go on is the stated reasons. *shrugs*

    where is it published?
    what i was told by the person who did it is he was taking the code and putting it on his own site and they didnt like that.
    i think that was when he was using shitty sourceforge.

    the real reason is g00r00 doesnt like having his stuff open sourced and doesnt see the benefit of it, even with the obvious example of synchronet's success right under his nose.
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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to MRO on Wed Aug 19 01:37:13 2020
    Re: NetRunner source
    By: MRO to Underminer on Tue Aug 18 2020 22:56:45

    where is it published?

    https://bbs.electronicchicken.com/?page=001-forum.ssjs&sub=fsxnet_fsx_mys&thread=5345#5375

    Or in case that link's too long:

    https://tinyurl.com/y3r5xpyj

    the real reason is g00r00 doesnt like having his stuff open sourced and doesnt see the benefit of
    it, even with the obvious example of synchronet's success right under his nose.

    He acknowledged Synchronet's success, but said that no such thing happened for Mystic. I dunno, I have a hard time imagining him being collaborative enough for that to work out. Likely butted heads with contributors and got touchy about criticism.

    Not long after he posted that message, he threw some kind of hissy fit over fuck knows what, and left.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to echicken on Wed Aug 19 00:54:29 2020
    Re: NetRunner source
    By: echicken to MRO on Wed Aug 19 2020 01:37 am

    Re: NetRunner source
    By: MRO to Underminer on Tue Aug 18 2020 22:56:45

    where is it published?

    https://bbs.electronicchicken.com/?page=001-forum.ssjs&sub=fsxnet_fsx_mys& threa d=5345#5375

    Or in case that link's too long:

    https://tinyurl.com/y3r5xpyj

    the real reason is g00r00 doesnt like having his stuff open sourced
    and doesnt see the benefit of it, even with the obvious example of
    synchronet's success right under his nose.

    He acknowledged Synchronet's success, but said that no such thing happened for Mystic. I dunno, I have a hard time imagining him being collaborative enough for that to work out. Likely butted heads with contributors and got touchy about criticism.

    what it all boils down to is from day one he did not want to be open sourced and he wanted to find a reason to yank it.

    they guy that started it is still here so i dont know if he wants to chime in about it. all i think he did was put the source on his website and maybe compile it.

    i'm not sure if someone really stuck their name on mystic bbs.

    we talked about this at length on zeronet and he got really pissed. he really does not like open source, he does not like collaboration. that's his right, though. the truth is he put mystic source out there because people kept suggesting him to. he kind of had it locked down back then, even.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to echicken on Wed Aug 19 01:04:41 2020
    Re: NetRunner source
    By: MRO to echicken on Wed Aug 19 2020 12:54 am

    Re: NetRunner source
    By: echicken to MRO on Wed Aug 19 2020 01:37 am

    Re: NetRunner source
    By: MRO to Underminer on Tue Aug 18 2020 22:56:45



    okay now i see it. guardian bbs / vertigo-bbs. looks like this
    loser just forks stuff and fucks it up and forgets about it.

    and there is the original forker on sourceforge that did guardian bbs.

    both of the forks look unremarkable.

    that other guy[who is a bbs sysop who posts here] who pissed him off with putting the code someplace else was just another reason for him to yank it.

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  • From Underminer@VERT/UNDRMINE to echicken on Wed Aug 19 03:48:40 2020
    Re: NetRunner source
    By: echicken to MRO on Wed Aug 19 2020 01:37 am

    Or in case that link's too long:
    https://tinyurl.com/y3r5xpyj
    He acknowledged Synchronet's success, but said that no such thing happened for Mystic. I dunno, I have a hard time imagining him being collaborative enough for that to work out. Likely butted heads with contributors and got touchy about criticism.

    Thanks for that. I knew I'd read a blog or forum post reasonably recently on things, but couldn't seem to find it.

    I don't know what the whole fsxNet thing was about, and if it was a case of butting heads with Paul(Avon)....geesh, my interactions with Paul have always left me thinking very favourably about him and his ease of interaction.

    That said though, you and I both know that devs can be a little less socially dexterous than might be ideal; that tends to get elevated if you're working with something you consider your life's work.

    While none of us can ever know for sure what his headspace was at, it's not unreasonable to think that there was a combination of catalysts where g00r00 didn't feel there was sufficient contribution, contributors felt unappreciated, a few bad apples got thrown into the mix, and the whole thing turned negative.

    I hope he keeps going though; while Rob and Deuce do amazing work for the community, we do need a few other options to keep going so that not every board ends up a cookie cutter of every other. Heck, I'm working on a bit of a mystic setup right now just for something a bit different for a bit, but I'm still going to keep some synch in the mix.
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  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to Gamgee on Wed Aug 19 08:09:12 2020
    Re: Re: NetRunner source
    By: Gamgee to Underminer on Tue Aug 18 2020 07:47:00


    Due to some recent bad experiences with code theft, James has
    stopped making the source for Mystic/NetRunner available, but the
    binaries are simple and work. ---

    Gamgee> Not sure how "recent" that may have been, but both have been
    Gamgee> closed-source for as long as I can remember...

    i had a copy of the repo for the v1.11 series when it was open source... he killed the repo for several reasons... 1) bug reports on things he had already fixed but hadn't pushed to the repo for others to pull... 2) code
    submissions he didn't like for some reason... 3) general trolling on code stuffs... nothing at all was said about "code theft" at the time... it was more stress than anything else that lead to the repo being killed... it just
    fit his workflow better to not be open source like that... RL stress as well as the bug reports just stacked up and he wasn't a happy grasshopper... i recognized certain code libraries being used (MKSMG) with no attribution
    at that time... not that it was any big deal... but nothing about code theft that i recall...


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  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to echicken on Wed Aug 19 08:33:53 2020
    Re: NetRunner source
    By: echicken to MRO on Wed Aug 19 2020 01:37:13


    echicken> I have a hard time imagining him being collaborative enough
    echicken> for that to work out. Likely butted heads with contributors
    echicken> and got touchy about criticism.

    ding! ding! ding! give that man a cigar...


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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Rampage on Wed Aug 19 07:49:00 2020
    Rampage wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Re: Re: NetRunner source
    By: Gamgee to Underminer on Tue Aug 18 2020 07:47:00


    Due to some recent bad experiences with code theft, James has
    stopped making the source for Mystic/NetRunner available, but the
    binaries are simple and work. ---

    Gamgee> Not sure how "recent" that may have been, but both have
    Gamgee> been closed-source for as long as I can remember...

    i had a copy of the repo for the v1.11 series when it was open
    source... he killed the repo for several reasons... 1) bug
    reports on things he had already fixed but hadn't pushed to the
    repo for others to pull... 2) code submissions he didn't like for
    some reason... 3) general trolling on code stuffs... nothing at
    all was said about "code theft" at the time... it was more stress
    than anything else that lead to the repo being killed... it just
    fit his workflow better to not be open source like that... RL
    stress as well as the bug reports just stacked up and he wasn't a
    happy grasshopper... i recognized certain code libraries being
    used (MKSMG) with no attribution at that time... not that it was
    any big deal... but nothing about code theft that i recall...

    Ahhhh, OK thanks for that info. Seems like he's kind of a
    tempermental and strange bird...



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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to MRO on Wed Aug 19 11:48:32 2020
    Re: NetRunner source
    By: MRO to echicken on Wed Aug 19 2020 00:54:29

    what it all boils down to is from day one he did not want to be open sourced and he wanted to find a
    reason to yank it.

    And by then it's too late; the mirroring and forking that he wanted to avoid is already done.

    i'm not sure if someone really stuck their name on mystic bbs.

    If they did, it's a natural consequence of going open source and not something to be surprised by.

    Were I in his shoes, I would *want* other people to rename and take credit for their forks and variants. As long as they're giving as much credit to him as the original license demands, that's fine.

    It's okay if people fork the project and make a mess or never do anything with it. GitHub etc. are rife with good intentions and fizzled efforts. Sometimes there are useful changes that someone else can work from.

    The main thing is that it be made clear who wrote what, so that the original author doesn't receive a bunch of confusing requests to support someone else's junk.

    we talked about this at length on zeronet and he got really pissed. he really does not like open
    source, he does not like collaboration. that's his right, though. the truth is he put mystic source

    Yep. Sucks that he closed it up, but it's his project and his choice. I'm surprised that he caved to pressure to open it up in the first place, given his low tolerance for the consequences. I suppose it was a learning experience.

    I've had kind of the opposite curve, being quite embarrassed of my shitty code early on and defensive because I'd worked hard on it. Took me some time to learn to deal with criticism and disagreements on how things should be done, etc. If you can get past all of that, there's a lot of room for growth and improvement.

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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to Underminer on Wed Aug 19 11:56:20 2020
    Re: NetRunner source
    By: Underminer to echicken on Wed Aug 19 2020 03:48:40

    I don't know what the whole fsxNet thing was about, and if it was a case of butting heads with
    Paul(Avon)....geesh, my interactions with Paul have always left me thinking very favourably about
    him and his ease of interaction.

    I don't think it was anything that Paul did; at most, it was what he didn't do. Some other people were being critical and argumentative and, I dunno, nobody told them to stop? Not sure.

    That said though, you and I both know that devs can be a little less socially dexterous than might
    be ideal; that tends to get elevated if you're working with something you consider your life's work.

    Indeed. "Hissy fit" was maybe an uncharitable choice of words. It just seemed like he bailed on the entire network quite easily, when he could've just bowed out of the thread or whatever. Whatever, nobody needs for their hobby to piss them off, so that's his right.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ECHICKEN on Wed Aug 19 15:40:00 2020
    I don't think it was anything that Paul did; at most, it was what he didn't do
    Some other people were being critical and argumentative and, I dunno, nobody t
    d them to stop? Not sure.

    I believe they were pointing out issues with the software, specifically the
    ftn bits that were causing issues. He also did not like that FSXnet was a network with more than one hub... I got the impression that the ftn issues caused problems when there were multiple hubs on a network (like FSX or
    fido have), so maybe that was why.

    The othernet he moved to only has one central hub.


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  • From Fang-Castro@VERT/FTPBBS to Dumas Walker on Wed Aug 19 17:01:02 2020
    Re: NetRunner source
    By: Dumas Walker to ECHICKEN on Wed Aug 19 2020 03:40 pm

    * SLMR 2.1a * Four snack groups: frozen, crunchies, cakes and sweets.

    Do you file salties under crunchies?

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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to Dumas Walker on Wed Aug 19 22:06:35 2020
    Re: NetRunner source
    By: Dumas Walker to ECHICKEN on Wed Aug 19 2020 15:40:00

    I believe they were pointing out issues with the software, specifically the
    ftn bits that were causing issues. He also did not like that FSXnet was a

    Yes, and to be fair, some were being absolute dicks about it. One guy in particular was having a massive overreaction to the problem. So things just heated up on both sides.

    ftn bits that were causing issues. He also did not like that FSXnet was a network with more than one hub... I got the impression that the ftn issues

    That would be a pretty wacky thing to dislike about an FTN, but okay. :)

    The othernet he moved to only has one central hub.

    Which could disappear at any time if its operator decides to go incommunicado, which has happened before. (I say that with due respect to the guy, he's a friend of mine, but facts is facts.) Kind of a situation where multiple hubs operated by different people would be good.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Dumas Walker on Wed Aug 19 20:12:00 2020
    Dumas Walker wrote to ECHICKEN <=-

    I don't think it was anything that Paul did; at most, it was what he didn't
    do
    Some other people were being critical and argumentative and, I dunno, nobody
    t
    d them to stop? Not sure.

    I believe they were pointing out issues with the software,
    specifically the ftn bits that were causing issues. He also did
    not like that FSXnet was a network with more than one hub... I
    got the impression that the ftn issues caused problems when there
    were multiple hubs on a network (like FSX or fido have), so maybe
    that was why.

    That's how I remember the issue, too. I think the FTN issues were
    because there were so many different versions (of Mystic) in use,
    with so many different bugs, that there were communication and
    dupe issues between the hubs. Also something about messages being
    truncated after 256 characters as I recall.

    The bottom line was that the software wasn't performing well, and
    he got tired of hearing the complaints, I guess.



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to echicken on Wed Aug 19 22:18:54 2020
    Re: NetRunner source
    By: echicken to MRO on Wed Aug 19 2020 11:48 am

    I've had kind of the opposite curve, being quite embarrassed of my shitty code early on and defensive because I'd worked hard on it. Took me some time to learn to deal with criticism and disagreements on how things should be done, etc. If you can get past all of that, there's a lot of room for growth and improvement.

    i have very little programming experience. i only did it when i was out of work because that's only when i had the time to learn it and practice and impliment it.

    but i had to learn how to use baja and some synchronet javascript[once there were examples for me to learn from], and i did have someone take my stuff and then put their name on it. and i admit it did piss me off a bit. but it was timewarrior and everything he did pissed me off.

    i dont see why g00r00 would be mad about these 2 guys taking his bbs and stamping a new name on it and making it into a total shit show in both cases.
    he just wanted a reason to pull it, like i said.
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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to echicken on Thu Aug 20 06:43:48 2020
    On 8/19/2020 8:48 AM, echicken wrote:

    I've had kind of the opposite curve, being quite embarrassed of my shitty code early on and defensive because I'd worked hard on it. Took me some time to learn to deal with criticism and disagreements on how things should be done, etc. If you can get past all of that, there's a lot of room for growth and improvement.

    Agreed... for the most part, I try to think of anything I write as
    something that's destined to be replaced (not always for better though)
    and that in the end, it will all work out. The longest running system I
    ever made was originally throw-away code meant for testing other things, instead it winds up at the core of a fortune 100 company public facing
    effort for well over a decade, and the "enterprise" replacement took
    over 3 years (for a 6-month project) and didn't work much better.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to FANG-CASTRO on Thu Aug 20 13:14:00 2020
    * SLMR 2.1a * Four snack groups: frozen, crunchies, cakes and sweets.

    Do you file salties under crunchies?

    Hmmmm, maybe there are five food groups? :) A lot of crunchies are salty.
    I myself would classify cakes as sweets, but maybe whoever originally
    wrote that one was thinking sweets = hard candies and candy bars.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ECHICKEN on Thu Aug 20 13:17:00 2020
    I believe they were pointing out issues with the software, specifically the
    ftn bits that were causing issues. He also did not like that FSXnet was a

    Yes, and to be fair, some were being absolute dicks about it. One guy in partic
    lar was having a massive overreaction to the problem. So things just heated up >n both sides.

    Agreed. He later had a massive overreation to something I said on another subject. I don't see him around much any more.

    ftn bits that were causing issues. He also did not like that FSXnet was a >DW> network with more than one hub... I got the impression that the ftn issues

    That would be a pretty wacky thing to dislike about an FTN, but okay. :)

    I agree. At least three of the hubs were running mystic but at least one
    was not. That could have been the issue... the mystic bug showed up because the other hub was not mystic? I did not really understand it, either.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to GAMGEE on Thu Aug 20 13:18:00 2020
    That's how I remember the issue, too. I think the FTN issues were
    because there were so many different versions (of Mystic) in use,
    with so many different bugs, that there were communication and
    dupe issues between the hubs. Also something about messages being
    truncated after 256 characters as I recall.

    I forgot that bit... I think it was also changing messages from other
    systems that flowed through the mystic system and causing things to be truncated and/or MSG IDs to be altered.

    The bottom line was that the software wasn't performing well, and
    he got tired of hearing the complaints, I guess.

    Yes.


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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Fri Aug 21 00:38:27 2020
    Re: NetRunner source
    By: MRO to echicken on Wed Aug 19 2020 10:18 pm

    but i had to learn how to use baja and some synchronet javascript[once there were examples for me to learn from], and i did have someone take my stuff and then put their name on it. and i admit it did piss me off a bit. but it was timewarrior and everything he did pissed me off.

    Ha! I hear ya...

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Sat Aug 22 01:50:24 2020
    Re: NetRunner source
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Fri Aug 21 2020 12:38 am

    Re: NetRunner source
    By: MRO to echicken on Wed Aug 19 2020 10:18 pm

    but i had to learn how to use baja and some synchronet javascript[once
    there were examples for me to learn from], and i did have someone take
    my stuff and then put their name on it. and i admit it did piss me
    off a bit. but it was timewarrior and everything he did pissed me
    off.

    Ha! I hear ya...

    i'm glad tw moved on from bbsing. he hasnt had a job his entire life and he has way too much time and crazy energy. not sure what he will do when his dad dies and there's nobody to support him.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to all on Sat Aug 22 01:56:37 2020
    Re: NetRunner source
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Sat Aug 22 2020 01:50 am

    Re: NetRunner source
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Fri Aug 21 2020 12:38 am

    Re: NetRunner source
    By: MRO to echicken on Wed Aug 19 2020 10:18 pm

    but i had to learn how to use baja and some synchronet
    javascript[once there were examples for me to learn from], and i did
    have someone take my stuff and then put their name on it. and i
    admit it did piss me off a bit. but it was timewarrior and
    everything he did pissed me off.

    Ha! I hear ya...

    i'm glad tw moved on from bbsing. he hasnt had a job his entire life and he has way too much time and crazy energy. not sure what he will do when his dad dies and there's nobody to support him.


    agh i just watched a minute of one of his youtube videos and it gave me a headache
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  • From Underminer@VERT/UNDRMINE to MRO on Sat Aug 22 02:27:29 2020
    Re: NetRunner source
    By: MRO to all on Sat Aug 22 2020 01:56 am

    agh i just watched a minute of one of his youtube videos and it gave me a headache ---

    Who is he on YouTube?
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Underminer on Sat Aug 22 10:31:32 2020
    Re: NetRunner source
    By: Underminer to MRO on Sat Aug 22 2020 02:27 am

    Re: NetRunner source
    By: MRO to all on Sat Aug 22 2020 01:56 am

    agh i just watched a minute of one of his youtube videos and it gave
    me a headache ---

    Who is he on YouTube?

    paradigm shift and educational comedy v2.0
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Sat Aug 22 14:59:29 2020
    Re: NetRunner source
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Sat Aug 22 2020 01:50 am

    Ha! I hear ya...

    i'm glad tw moved on from bbsing. he hasnt had a job his entire life and he has way too much time and crazy energy. not sure what he will do when his dad dies and there's nobody to support him.

    This hobby seems to attract *all* kinds, but yeah, I don't miss his SynchroWebSuportNet.org or whatever it was. There was an online video of an XpressitNet "meetup" at one time. Check that out if you can find it. :-)

    digital man

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  • From Underminer@VERT/UNDRMINE to MRO on Sat Aug 22 16:20:47 2020
    Re: NetRunner source
    By: MRO to Underminer on Sat Aug 22 2020 10:31 am

    paradigm shift and educational comedy v2.0

    Whelp, I couldn't get through a video to get a sense of anything.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Sat Aug 22 18:39:41 2020
    Re: NetRunner source
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Sat Aug 22 2020 02:59 pm

    Re: NetRunner source
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Sat Aug 22 2020 01:50 am

    Ha! I hear ya...

    i'm glad tw moved on from bbsing. he hasnt had a job his entire life
    and he has way too much time and crazy energy. not sure what he will
    do when his dad dies and there's nobody to support him.

    This hobby seems to attract *all* kinds, but yeah, I don't miss his SynchroWebSuportNet.org or whatever it was. There was an online video of an XpressitNet "meetup" at one time. Check that out if you can find it. :-)



    yeah it was a huge dork fest.
    right now he has videos that will probably drive a person insane. there's people talking and weird loud music playing at the same time that osciliates.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Underminer on Sat Aug 22 18:40:15 2020
    Re: NetRunner source
    By: Underminer to MRO on Sat Aug 22 2020 04:20 pm

    Re: NetRunner source
    By: MRO to Underminer on Sat Aug 22 2020 10:31 am

    paradigm shift and educational comedy v2.0

    Whelp, I couldn't get through a video to get a sense of anything.


    you end up feeling like you have to bleach your brain.




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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Sat Aug 22 18:59:32 2020
    Re: NetRunner source
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Sat Aug 22 2020 06:39 pm

    Re: NetRunner source
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Sat Aug 22 2020 02:59 pm

    Re: NetRunner source
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Sat Aug 22 2020 01:50 am

    Ha! I hear ya...

    i'm glad tw moved on from bbsing. he hasnt had a job his entire life
    and he has way too much time and crazy energy. not sure what he will
    do when his dad dies and there's nobody to support him.

    This hobby seems to attract *all* kinds, but yeah, I don't miss his SynchroWebSuportNet.org or whatever it was. There was an online video of an XpressitNet "meetup" at one time. Check that out if you can find it. :-)



    yeah it was a huge dork fest.

    Well "huge" might be an overstatement. :-)

    digital man

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Sat Aug 22 22:19:40 2020
    Re: NetRunner source
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Sat Aug 22 2020 06:59 pm


    yeah it was a huge dork fest.

    Well "huge" might be an overstatement. :-)

    digital man


    well. 3 huge dorks.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Sun Aug 23 09:18:00 2020
    yeah it was a huge dork fest.
    right now he has videos that will probably drive a person insane. there's peopl
    talking and weird loud music playing at the same time that osciliates.

    That sounds a little like CHEEZ BURGER's videos.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sun Aug 23 15:15:01 2020
    Re: NetRunner source
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sun Aug 23 2020 09:18 am

    yeah it was a huge dork fest.
    right now he has videos that will probably drive a person insane.
    there's
    peopl
    talking and weird loud music playing at the same time that osciliates.

    That sounds a little like CHEEZ BURGER's videos.


    no it's horrible. and instead of some pretending to be stupid, it's someone on a whole 'nother level of everything.
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  • From paulie420@VERT/BEERS20 to MRO on Sun Aug 23 18:49:00 2020
    yeah it was a huge dork fest.
    right now he has videos that will probably drive a person insane.
    there's
    peopl
    talking and weird loud music playing at the same time that osciliates.

    That sounds a little like CHEEZ BURGER's videos.


    no it's horrible. and instead of some pretending to be stupid, it's someone on a whole 'nother level of everything.
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    wheres the link, or what do i search so i can watch for context? i missed the first part of this thread.



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  • From Digital Man@VERT to paulie420 on Sun Aug 23 22:36:01 2020
    Re: Re: NetRunner source
    By: paulie420 to MRO on Sun Aug 23 2020 06:49 pm

    no it's horrible. and instead of some pretending to be stupid, it's someone on a whole 'nother level of everything.
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    wheres the link, or what do i search so i can watch for context? i missed the first part of this thread.

    Well, there's this:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO4nxiWNw3s

    and there's this:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzEyJtMplfM

    digital man

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  • From Underminer@VERT/UNDRMINE to Digital Man on Mon Aug 24 00:57:02 2020
    Re: Re: NetRunner source
    By: Digital Man to paulie420 on Sun Aug 23 2020 10:36 pm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO4nxiWNw3s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzEyJtMplfM

    Holy potato-cam, batman.
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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Digital Man on Mon Aug 24 08:25:35 2020
    Re: Re: NetRunner source
    By: Digital Man to paulie420 on Sun Aug 23 2020 10:36 pm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO4nxiWNw3s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzEyJtMplfM

    I had meticulously scrubbed the very existence of TW from my brain over the course of many years.

    Now it's all back. all of it. oh god.....

    DaiTengu

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